Comments on: The Hudson River Dredging Project http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-hudson-river-dredging-project/ My Thoughts, Opinions, and Experiences Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:41:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: John Tedder http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-hudson-river-dredging-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5214 John Tedder Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:05:30 +0000 http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/blog/?p=80#comment-5214 Thanks for commenting Chip. The Hudson River is amazingly beautiful here. I hope that GE and the EPA can clean up the PCBs so that some day people can eat the fish they catch and swim in the river without worrying. I was sitting on my back deck a few weeks ago and saw a bald eagle fly over. What an amazing sight. It was huge. The river and wildlife have made a great recovery since the federal government forced companies to stop using the river as a dump. Hopefully, this clean up will complete the process. Thanks for commenting Chip. The Hudson River is amazingly beautiful here. I hope that GE and the EPA can clean up the PCBs so that some day people can eat the fish they catch and swim in the river without worrying. I was sitting on my back deck a few weeks ago and saw a bald eagle fly over. What an amazing sight. It was huge. The river and wildlife have made a great recovery since the federal government forced companies to stop using the river as a dump. Hopefully, this clean up will complete the process.

]]> By: Chip Furlong http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-hudson-river-dredging-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5205 Chip Furlong Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:53:41 +0000 http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/blog/?p=80#comment-5205 Hi John, this is a good argument for private ownership of even rivers...or parts of rivers. If you dump poison into something that belongs to me, you're a criminal and I'm a victim. On the other hand, if nobody owns it.... Hi John, this is a good argument for private ownership of even rivers…or parts of rivers. If you dump poison into something that belongs to me, you’re a criminal and I’m a victim. On the other hand, if nobody owns it….

]]> By: loostool http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-hudson-river-dredging-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2746 loostool Fri, 08 May 2009 18:54:33 +0000 http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/blog/?p=80#comment-2746 You were a biochemist as an 8 year old? The fact is no, you couldn't have said that. YOu're working from a position of acquired knowledge; you know tha PCB's are bad NOW, but back THEN no one knew they were harmful if they were put into the river. What if they allowed chocolate syrup be dumped into the river now? Would anyone have objections? (Probably a few). There would be little hue and cry for them not to because, hey, i't ONLY chocolate syrup. But what if 30 years from now we found out tha chocolate caused a chemical reaction in fish that made them toxic to birds or even peopl? THEN people would up and scream bloddy murder and use the "You never should have done that" line. Separate the issues; PCB's are bad - that's a given. But back before anyone knew they were really bad it WASN'T illegal to dump them in the river. So shame on everyone for letting it happen - but it is not solely a GE problem. Again, I'd raise a stink if I were GE and the State came back to me 40 years after the fact and said that I had to pay for the whole clean up. "Hey. Mr. NYS; YOU said it was OK. So didn't the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. We only did what we were told to do." And as to the dredging; like I noted previously - check out some of the contrarian websites; The dredging may do far more harm than good. You wouldn't BELIEVE half of the crap that the State and the Feds used to allow to be dumped in rivers. So before we start pointing fingers at the companies alone, and before we start the "common sense" chant, we better look at the politicos who allowed it all to happen for so long. If anyone failed in the "common sense" department it was our elected officials who said."Errr...OK" in the first place. There's two sides to every story You were a biochemist as an 8 year old?

The fact is no, you couldn’t have said that. YOu’re working from a position of acquired knowledge; you know tha PCB’s are bad NOW, but back THEN no one knew they were harmful if they were put into the river.
What if they allowed chocolate syrup be dumped into the river now? Would anyone have objections? (Probably a few). There would be little hue and cry for them not to because, hey, i’t ONLY chocolate syrup. But what if 30 years from now we found out tha chocolate caused a chemical reaction in fish that made them toxic to birds or even peopl? THEN people would up and scream bloddy murder and use the “You never should have done that” line. Separate the issues; PCB’s are bad – that’s a given. But back before anyone knew they were really bad it WASN’T illegal to dump them in the river. So shame on everyone for letting it happen – but it is not solely a GE problem. Again, I’d raise a stink if I were GE and the State came back to me 40 years after the fact and said that I had to pay for the whole clean up. “Hey. Mr. NYS; YOU said it was OK. So didn’t the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. We only did what we were told to do.”
And as to the dredging; like I noted previously – check out some of the contrarian websites; The dredging may do far more harm than good.

You wouldn’t BELIEVE half of the crap that the State and the Feds used to allow to be dumped in rivers. So before we start pointing fingers at the companies alone, and before we start the “common sense” chant, we better look at the politicos who allowed it all to happen for so long. If anyone failed in the “common sense” department it was our elected officials who said.”Errr…OK” in the first place.
There’s two sides to every story

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